Legislature(2013 - 2014)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/12/2013 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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SENATE BILL NO. 62                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to grants for school construction."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:02:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID SCOTT, STAFF,  SENATOR OLSON, stated that  SB 62 added                                                                    
five  schools  for   Regional  Educational  Attendance  Area                                                                    
(REAA)  grant  fund eligibility.  The  bill  defined what  a                                                                    
small  municipal   school  district   is  and   allowed  the                                                                    
districts to be eligible  for REAA funds including Hydaburg,                                                                    
Kake, Klawock,  St. Mary's,  and Tanana.  He added  that the                                                                    
locations were  all first  class cities and  were a  part of                                                                    
the unorganized  borough. He shared  that the REAA  fund was                                                                    
created  in the  26th Legislature  [2009-2010] to  provide a                                                                    
revenue stream  to REAA school  districts; it was  a funding                                                                    
mechanism  that  arose  from the  Kasayulie  settlement.  He                                                                    
furthered that  the fund was  capitalized through  a formula                                                                    
included on page 1, line 9.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Scott  continued that REAA  school districts  lacked the                                                                    
ability to bond and could  not take advantage of the state's                                                                    
bond reimbursement  program (the term 70/30  referred to the                                                                    
program).  He  relayed  that   some  rural  communities  had                                                                    
elected  to   incorporate  as  first  class   cities,  which                                                                    
required    the   communities    to   take    on   education                                                                    
responsibilities and  to lose their  REAA school  status. He                                                                    
stated  that the  communities were  in "limbo"  because they                                                                    
could  not  use the  REAA  fund  and  did not  have  bonding                                                                    
authority. He communicated  that the intent of  the bill was                                                                    
to  get the  schools  out  of limbo  status.  He pointed  to                                                                    
Section  2  of the  legislation  and  stated that  the  term                                                                    
"small municipal  school district"  was defined as  a school                                                                    
with an Average Daily Membership  (ADM) of less than 300 and                                                                    
with a full value per ADM of no more than $500,000.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon expounded  on  Mr. Scott's  testimony                                                                    
and  explained  that  most   school  districts  (the  bigger                                                                    
districts)  had   the  ability  to  access   the  bond  debt                                                                    
reimbursement program.  He shared  that as  a result  of the                                                                    
Kasayulie court  case, the legislature  had created  an REAA                                                                    
school construction fund in 2010.  The bill would grant five                                                                    
communities  eligibility for  the  REAA school  construction                                                                    
fund   program,  which   would   simultaneously  address   a                                                                    
potential   log-jam    on   school    construction   capital                                                                    
improvement  project list.  He  furthered  that without  the                                                                    
ability to  bond or  to access  the REAA  construction fund,                                                                    
the  communities  would  not  have  another  funding  source                                                                    
outside  a legislative  capital appropriation.  He clarified                                                                    
that  the legislature  had the  ability to  fund the  school                                                                    
construction   and   maintenance  projects;   however,   the                                                                    
legislature  did not  always  have the  ability  to put  the                                                                    
needed funds in the budget.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Neuman commented  that  small  schools were  not                                                                    
necessarily 5,500 or less.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  if the  term "small  municipal                                                                    
school  district"  was  used   in  any  other  locations  in                                                                    
statute.  Mr.  Scott  answered that  the  bill  created  and                                                                    
defined the term in Section 2.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:09:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  questioned   whether  the  districts                                                                    
would  have the  same  70/30 structure  as larger  districts                                                                    
where the  state pays  70 percent and  the districts  pay 30                                                                    
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH  SWEENEY NUDELMAN,  DIRECTOR, SCHOOL  FINANCES AND                                                                    
FACILITIES, DEPARTMENT  OF EDUCATION AND  EARLY DEVELOPMENT,                                                                    
responded  that  the bill  provided  a  funding source  that                                                                    
would fund  schools on the  construction list in  order. She                                                                    
continued  that  there  would be  funds  available  for  the                                                                    
districts as they reached the top  of the list for REAAs and                                                                    
small municipalities.  She furthered that when  a school was                                                                    
funded  there would  be a  participating share  paid by  the                                                                    
district.  The  participating  share  had  not  changed  and                                                                    
ranged from 2 percent to 30 percent.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  looked at  the definition of  a small                                                                    
municipal school  district on page 2,  lines 1 and 2  of the                                                                    
bill. She  asked if  the numbers  had been  selected because                                                                    
anything above the  amounts had bonding ability.   Mr. Scott                                                                    
replied in the affirmative.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  stated  that   she  had  no  problem                                                                    
helping with bonding for school  districts that did not have                                                                    
that ability. She  wanted to be fair to  all communities and                                                                    
noted  that larger  districts paid  high  property taxes  to                                                                    
participate. She  was comfortable that the  bill would allow                                                                    
the  small communities  to make  improvements and  that they                                                                    
shared in  the cost. She  voiced support for  the definition                                                                    
[for small municipal school district] used in the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Scott affirmed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:12:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz thought  that first  class cities  had                                                                    
the ability  to bond. Mr.  Scott replied that being  a first                                                                    
class city  did not give  the automatic ability to  bond. He                                                                    
detailed that  the five communities did  not have sufficient                                                                    
economic capacity  to be granted  bonds by a  municipal bond                                                                    
bank. There were some first  class cities in the unorganized                                                                    
borough that could bond.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  understood, but stated that  there was                                                                    
no statutory prohibition that  would prevent the communities                                                                    
from bonding if they had the capability. Mr. Scott agreed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  HERBERT,   SUPERINTENDENT,  ST.  MARY'S   CITY  SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT (via  teleconference), spoke  in strong  support of                                                                    
the  legislation. He  shared that  the  school district  had                                                                    
originally been  part of  the Kasayulie  case that  had been                                                                    
settled   in  2011.   He  explained   that  the   settlement                                                                    
recognized   that  the   method   of   funding  new   school                                                                    
construction  in  Alaska's schools  needed  to  be fair  and                                                                    
equitable. He  shared that St.  Mary's had been  excluded in                                                                    
the  final settlement  negotiations  because it  was not  an                                                                    
REAA  school district  (St.  Mary's is  a  first class  city                                                                    
school  district). He  explained  that being  a first  class                                                                    
city school district  required the city to  make a mandatory                                                                    
local contribution  to the school district  each fiscal year                                                                    
to help  offset its  operation costs; whereas,  REAA schools                                                                    
did   not   have   a  mandatory   local   contribution.   He                                                                    
communicated  that  the  district had  taken  the  necessary                                                                    
steps   to  improve   its  position   on   the  new   school                                                                    
construction list  through DEED. He elaborated  on the steps                                                                    
the  district  had  taken.  He  shared  that  currently  the                                                                    
district  was the  only small  municipal school  district on                                                                    
the list that the legislation would apply to.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Herbert  furthered that  the  impact  of the  bill  was                                                                    
minimal  to the  state,  but was  greatly  important to  St.                                                                    
Mary's.  He relayed  that  most  municipalities had  bonding                                                                    
capacity  and were  eligible  to receive  up  to 70  percent                                                                    
reimbursement from  the state  for new  school construction.                                                                    
He detailed  that there  was only a  small group  of schools                                                                    
that did not qualify for  the bond reimbursement or the REAA                                                                    
fund source.  He stressed that the  legislation would ensure                                                                    
that  new school  construction  funding  sources were  truly                                                                    
equitable for  all of Alaska's  schools. He stated  that the                                                                    
district  had demonstrated  its ability  to provide  quality                                                                    
education.  He urged  the committee  and the  legislature to                                                                    
pass the legislation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM BEGICH,  POLICY DIRECTOR,  CITIZENS FOR  THE EDUCATIONAL                                                                    
ADVANCEMENT OF  ALASKA'S CHILDREN,  spoke in support  of the                                                                    
legislation.   He   shared   that   the   organization   was                                                                    
responsible  for  initially   bringing  the  Kasayulie  suit                                                                    
forward. He informed the committee  that the legislation was                                                                    
the organization's number one  priority and the top priority                                                                    
for  its  REAA members.  He  stated  that  the bill  made  a                                                                    
necessary correction to an error that needed repair.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  asked for verification that  the five                                                                    
school  districts  were the  only  districts  that were  not                                                                    
currently covered by a bonding mechanism.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Begich  replied  in  the  affirmative.  The  group  had                                                                    
reviewed the formula before the  bill had been introduced to                                                                    
ensure that it would not  unfairly penalize schools with the                                                                    
ability to bond. He added  that because the bill contained a                                                                    
formula instead  of specifying the five  school districts it                                                                    
would allow districts to "pop"  out of the category if their                                                                    
economic capacity increased.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon remarked that  a significant amount of                                                                    
work had  gone into the  bill prior to its  introduction. He                                                                    
believed the bill  was a good compromise and  noted its zero                                                                    
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz appreciated  the sponsors'  who worked                                                                    
on  the bill.  She asked  how the  construction fund  worked                                                                    
that had resulted from the Kasayulie case.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Begich   answered   that   the   Kasayulie   mechanism                                                                    
established  in 2010  had  been built  on  a fairly  complex                                                                    
formula  developed by  Senator  Lyman  Hoffman's office  and                                                                    
added to by the House  Finance Committee. He elaborated that                                                                    
the formula  looked at  the bonding  capacity for  any given                                                                    
year for  schools that were eligible  for bond reimbursement                                                                    
and established a referential amount  based on the number of                                                                    
schools that was  deposited into the REAA  fund annually. He                                                                    
stated  that  the  REAA  fund  had a  $70  million  cap.  He                                                                    
detailed that the idea was  to encourage the spending of the                                                                    
available  funds  annually  in  order to  rectify  what  the                                                                    
courts  found was  a biased  process of  funding schools  in                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Neuman CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:22:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  asked  about a  report  on  school                                                                    
construction and major maintenance.  Mr. Scott replied noted                                                                    
that the report was available on the DEED website.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki did not see  a problem with the bill                                                                    
if its  intent was to  fix the ability for  schools' ability                                                                    
to  bond and  to provide  for  funds. He  believed a  bigger                                                                    
question  existed regarding  how schools  equitably received                                                                    
money for construction. He pointed  to a Fairbanks school on                                                                    
the list for  major maintenance that continued  to move down                                                                    
on the priority  list. He believed the  overall issue should                                                                    
be addressed by the committee in the future.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson asked  how the  school priority  list                                                                    
for major maintenance worked.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon replied that  the bill was not related                                                                    
to the major maintenance list.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson  clarified   her  interest   in  the                                                                    
construction list.  Ms. Nudelman  replied that the  list was                                                                    
recalibrated   each  year;   districts  could   reuse  their                                                                    
application for one year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:24:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello  addressed the one zero  fiscal note                                                                    
from the Department of Education and Early Development.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon   MOVED  to  REPORT  SB   62  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 62 was REPORTED out of committee with a "do pass"                                                                            
recommendation and with one previously published fiscal                                                                         
note: FN1(EED).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CS-FIN SB 7, version C (with FilmFix).pdf HFIN 4/12/2013 1:30:00 PM
SB 7
Memo 13-232 lnd (for CS-FIN SB 7, version C).pdf HFIN 4/12/2013 1:30:00 PM
SB 7